Legislature(2013 - 2014)CAPITOL 106

03/19/2013 08:00 AM House STATE AFFAIRS


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*+ HB 130 JAY HAMMOND DAY TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ SB 12 PUBLIC PROCUREMENT TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                   SB  12-PUBLIC PROCUREMENT                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:35:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN announced that the  final order of business was SENATE                                                               
BILL  NO.  12,  "An  Act  relating to  state  and  public  entity                                                               
procurement,  including the  State Procurement  Code, procurement                                                               
preferences,  contract  awards,  the  use  of  small  procurement                                                               
provisions  for  certain  amounts  of leased  space,  the  Alaska                                                               
business  license   requirement  for  Alaska  bidder   and  other                                                               
procurement   preferences,   the   proof   of   registration   of                                                               
construction  contract bidders  and  offerors, the  establishment                                                               
and maintenance of lists of  persons who want to provide supplies                                                               
or   services   to  the   state,   state   agencies,  and   state                                                               
instrumentalities,  electronic  bids  and  proposals,  the  chief                                                               
procurement officer,  small procurements, and  writings; relating                                                               
to  the  meaning  of  'Alaska   bidder';  and  providing  for  an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:36:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ANNA  FAIRCLOUGH, Alaska  State Legislature,  as sponsor,                                                               
presented SB  12.  She indicated  that this is the  third attempt                                                               
to  pass through  this  legislation through  both  bodies of  the                                                               
Alaska  State Legislature.    She  said SB  12  is  an effort  to                                                               
streamline   Alaska's  procurement   code,  by   modifying  small                                                               
procurement to  provide opportunity for rural  and urban Alaskans                                                               
alike  to  participate  in  leases   in  goods  and  services  or                                                               
construction  that  the  state  has  available.    She  said  the                                                               
proposed  legislation  would  clarify  when  an  Alaska  business                                                               
license  is needed  and  "how  that will  be  counted during  the                                                               
procurement  process."   Senator  Fairclough  noted  some of  the                                                               
changes proposed  under SB 12  [which are listed in  the upcoming                                                               
Sectional Analysis].                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:38:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT  expressed gratitude  to the  bill sponsor                                                               
for her  third effort  in proposing this  legislation.   She said                                                               
she thinks the whole process needs to be streamlined.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:39:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HUGHES  thanked the sponsor for  her perseverance.                                                               
She expressed  specific gratitude for  the portion of SB  12 that                                                               
would allow  veterans to use  their status, as designated  by the                                                               
Veterans  Administration, thereby  avoiding extra  expense.   She                                                               
directed attention  to Section  19, on page  7, line  [17], which                                                               
references a 15 percent preference  for employment programs.  She                                                               
noted that  that is higher  than "what we're  seeing throughout,"                                                               
and she asked for an example of an employment program.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:40:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VERN JONES,  Chief Procurement Officer, Central  Office, Division                                                               
of General  Services, Department  of Administration,  in response                                                               
to  Representative  Hughes,  explained that  employment  programs                                                               
used   to  be   called   "sheltered  workshops"   and  refer   to                                                               
organizations that  employ developmentally  disabled individuals.                                                               
He said the 15 percent preference  is not a proposed change; that                                                               
is the amount currently in statute.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:41:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAURA  PIERRE,  Staff,  Senator  Anna  Fairclough,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, on behalf of  Senator Fairclough, sponsor, presented                                                               
the sectional analysis  for SB 12, beginning  with Sections 1-13,                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     * Section 1: Amends AS 24.55.275                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
       Updates a citation to reflect the renumbering of a                                                                       
     preference.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     * Section 2: Amends AS 36.15.050(a)                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Amends  the local  agricultural preference  to grant  a                                                                    
     seven  percent cost  preference to  the qualifying  bid                                                                    
     rather  than to  the  low bid,  making this  preference                                                                    
     consistent with other procurement preferences.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     * Section 3: Amends AS 36.15.050(b)                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Amends the local fisheries preference  to grant a seven                                                                    
     percent cost  preference to  the qualifying  bid rather                                                                    
     than to the low  bid, making this preference consistent                                                                    
     with other procurement preferences.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     *  Section  4: Amends  AS  36.15.050  by adding  a  new                                                                  
     subsection (h)                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Amends   the    local   agricultural    and   fisheries                                                                    
     preferences  to disallow  a bidder  from being  granted                                                                    
     both a  local agricultural/fisheries preference  and an                                                                    
     Alaska product preference under another statute.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     * Section 5: Amends AS 36.30.010                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Amends  the salary  of  the  Chief Procurement  Officer                                                                    
     from range  27 to range 25  due to changes made  to the                                                                    
     position,  which will  no longer  serve as  Director of                                                                    
     the Division of General Services.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     * Section 6: Amends AS 36.30.015(e)                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Updates  a citation  to reflect  the  renumbering of  a                                                                    
     preference.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     * Section 7: Amends AS 36.30.015(f)                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Updates  a citation  to reflect  the  renumbering of  a                                                                    
     preference.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     * Section 8: Amends AS 36.30.015(h)                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Updates  a citation  to reflect  the  renumbering of  a                                                                    
     preference.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     * Section 9: Amends AS 36.30.020                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Updates  a citation  to reflect  the  renumbering of  a                                                                    
     preference.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     * Section 10: Amends AS 36.30.030                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Updates  a citation  to reflect  the  renumbering of  a                                                                    
     preference.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     * Section 11: Amends AS 36.30.080(f)                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Increases  the threshold  limit for  small procurements                                                                    
     of leased space from 3,000  square feet to 7,000 square                                                                    
     feet, consistent with section 18.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     * Section 12: Amends AS 36.30.110(b)                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Clarifies  Alaska  business  license  requirements  for                                                                    
     competitive  sealed  bids  and  qualification  for  the                                                                    
     Alaska bidder preference.  This change requires bidders                                                                    
     to show  proof of  their Alaska Business  License prior                                                                    
     to award, but  requires the license at the  time of bid                                                                    
     submission in  order to qualify  for the  Alaska bidder                                                                    
     preference.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     * Section 13: Amends AS 36.30.130(a)                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Eliminates reference to a  procurement officer's use of                                                                    
     vendor  lists, reflecting  the  repeal  of the  statute                                                                    
     establishing the vendor  lists, consistent with section                                                                    
     33.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:43:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN returned attention to Section [11, on page 5, lines                                                                  
12-16], which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          *Sec. 11. AS 36.30.080(f) is amended to read:                                                                       
                    (f) When the department is acquiring                                                                        
     leased space of 7,000 [3,000]  square feet or less, the                                                                
     department  may  procure  the leased  space  using  the                                                                    
     procedures for  small procurements under  AS 36.30.320,                                                                    
     providing  public   notice  is  given   to  prospective                                                                    
     offerors in the market area.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN asked for the rationale behind the increase from                                                                     
3,000 to 7,000.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FAIRCLOUGH responded that  the state procurement code was                                                               
last modified  between the late  1980s and early 1990s,  which is                                                               
when the  threshold amendments were set.   She said she  does not                                                               
know why the  amount of 3,000 was originally  chosen, but related                                                               
the 7000 mark and above  is where the administration indicated it                                                               
has to "take a hard look."   She said people in rural communities                                                               
were not offering  lease spaces within the 3,000  to 7,000 square                                                               
foot range,  because they did  not want  to go through  the large                                                               
procurement process.   Changing the  number to 7,000  would allow                                                               
more people to  place properties for rent to the  State of Alaska                                                               
more easily.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:45:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. PIERRE reiterated  the changes that would be  made in Section                                                               
13,  then presented  Sections 14-18  of  the Sectional  Analysis,                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     *  Section 14:  Amends  AS 36.30.170  by repealing  and                                                                  
     reenacting                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Updates a  citation to reflect  the renumbering  of the                                                                    
     Alaska bidder preference.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     * Section 15: Amends AS 36.30.210(b)                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Clarifies    construction    contractor    registration                                                                    
     requirements,  now  explicitly  requiring  registration                                                                    
     before award of a contract.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     * Section 16: Amends AS 36.30.210(e)                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Clarifies  Alaska  business  license  requirements  for                                                                    
     competitive sealed proposals  and qualification for the                                                                    
     Alaska  bidder  preference  using  language  consistent                                                                    
     with that used in section 12.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     * Section 17:  Amends AS 36.30 by adding  a new section                                                                  
     36.30.290                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Adds  a  new  section  allowing  an  agency  to  accept                                                                    
     electronic bids and proposals.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     * Section 18: Amends AS 36.30.320(a)                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Increases the threshold under which  a state agency may                                                                    
     use informal procurement process  to $100,000 for goods                                                                    
     and    professional   services,    to   $200,000    for                                                                    
     construction,  and  7,000  square  feet  for  lease  of                                                                    
     space.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:46:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT returned to Section  17 and asked what the                                                               
form of confirmation is for receiving an electronic bid.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:47:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JONES answered  that  statute  does not  dictate  a form  of                                                               
proof; however,  the department  is currently  in the  process of                                                               
developing   an   automated   procurement  system,   called   the                                                               
Integrated Resource  Information System  (IRIS), which  will have                                                               
well-documented protocols in place.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT  explained that  she  does  not want  the                                                               
State  of Alaska  to end  up in  a law  suit because  it did  not                                                               
receive a facsimile or electronic transmission.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FAIRCLOUGH   presented  Section  19  of   the  Sectional                                                               
Analysis, which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     * Section 19:  Amends AS 36.30 by adding  a new section                                                                  
     36.30.321                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Adds  a new  section  consolidating  the Alaska  bidder                                                                    
     preference,  Alaska  veterans'  preference,  and  other                                                                    
     preferences formerly  at AS 36.30.170(b).  This section                                                                    
     also  simplifies the  qualification for  the disability                                                                    
     and  employment  program  preferences,  eliminates  the                                                                    
     seldom  used  employers  of  people  with  disabilities                                                                    
     preference,  and  excludes   real  estate  leases  from                                                                    
     application of procurement preferences.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:48:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. PIERRE  presented Sections 20-23  of the  Sectional Analysis,                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     * Section 20: Amends AS 36.30.322(a)                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Modifies the  use of local  forest products  statute to                                                                    
     grant   a  seven   percent  cost   preference  to   the                                                                    
     qualifying bid rather than to  the low bid, making this                                                                    
     preference consistent with other preferences.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     *  Section 21:  Amends  AS 36.30.336  by repealing  and                                                                  
     reenacting                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Clarifies  which preferences  are cumulative  and which                                                                    
     may not  be combined.   (example: bidders  cannot claim                                                                    
     both an  employment program  preference and  a disabled                                                                    
     bidder preference)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     * Section 22: Amends AS 36.30.655                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Eliminates  reference to  the  removal  of debarred  or                                                                    
     suspended  persons from  vendor  lists, reflecting  the                                                                    
     repeal of  the statute  establishing the  vendor lists,                                                                    
     consistent with section 33.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     *  Section 23:  Amends  AS 36.30.990  by  adding a  new                                                                  
     paragraph                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Moves  the  definition  for "Alaska  bidder"  (formerly                                                                    
     contained  in 36.30.170(b))  and  adds new  definitions                                                                    
     for "in  writing" and "written" to  include information                                                                    
     in electronic form.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:50:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT asked if a person who lapses from his/her                                                                
Alaska bidder's license is removed from the bidders' list.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FAIRCLOUGH responded, "We're eliminating the bidders'                                                                   
list."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:50:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. PIERRE presented Sections 24-28 - the remainder of the                                                                      
Sectional Analysis - which read as follows [original punctuation                                                                
provided]:                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     * Section 24: Amends AS 36.90.049(a)                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Updates  a citation  to reflect  the  renumbering of  a                                                                    
     preference.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     * Section 25: Amends AS 38.35.017(a)                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Updates  a citation  to reflect  the  renumbering of  a                                                                    
     preference.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     * Section  26: Repeals AS 36.30.050,  which established                                                                  
     the   vendor  lists,   repeals   AS  36.30.175,   which                                                                    
     established  the  veteran  preference, because  it  has                                                                    
     been   relocated  to   AS   36.30.321(f),  repeals   AS                                                                    
     36.30.250(b),  because   competitive  sealed  proposals                                                                    
     preference  application  language  is now  included  in                                                                    
     section  19 (AS  36.30.321), and  repeals AS  36.30.335                                                                    
     because  language  outlining   application  of  certain                                                                    
     preferences  is   now  included   in  section   21  (AS                                                                    
     36.30.336).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     * Section  27: Amends the  uncodified law of  the State                                                                  
     of Alaska                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Clarifies  the  application  of this  bill  to  pending                                                                    
     solicitations during the transition period.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     * Section 28: Effective Date                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     This bill is effective immediately                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.   PIERRE,   while   addressing  Section   27,   offered   her                                                               
understanding that  "the legislation  allows them  to communicate                                                               
with the department and ... come  to an agreement on whether they                                                               
would  like  to  stick  with  what they  signed  as  an  original                                                               
contract before this bill goes into  effect or have the option to                                                               
take advantage of some of the preferences under this."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:52:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER,  regarding the  issue of  preferences that                                                               
may or may not  be cumulative, said he would like  to "get a feel                                                               
for the kind of dynamics that are going on there."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:52:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FAIRCLOUGH  noted that  the  University  of Alaska,  the                                                               
Alaska Municipal League (AML), and  the Alaska State Chamber, and                                                               
others groups, are supportive of the  changes in SB 12.  She said                                                               
no one has testified or contacted  her office in opposition to SB
12.   She relayed that in  the first year, she  carried the bill,                                                               
she tried to  eliminate an "offers preference,"  which existed in                                                               
regulation,   and   there   was  public   outcry   against   that                                                               
elimination.    She   said  she  still  believes   it  should  be                                                               
eliminated, but it has not been  included in "this package."  She                                                               
continued as follows:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     The  only  other person  who  has  contacted us  saying                                                                    
     anything negative  about anything contained in  all six                                                                    
     years had to do with  the lease space rental, where the                                                                    
     administration advised us that  the employers of people                                                                    
     with  disabilities credit  was  being used  differently                                                                    
     than the  legislature had intended,  and that  only one                                                                    
     or  two   people  were   benefiting  inside   a  family                                                                    
     environment  versus   what  ...  the   legislature  had                                                                    
     actually hoped  to accomplish,  and that  was employing                                                                    
     many people with disabilities.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FAIRCLOUGH  deferred to Mr.  Jones to discuss  how credit                                                               
can be combined, how that may  have been a challenge in the past,                                                               
and how the  intent of the proposed legislation  is to explicitly                                                               
outline this issue in statute.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:54:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.   JONES  said   the  proposed   legislation  clarifies   that                                                               
preferences cannot  be duplicated.   For example, a  fisheries or                                                               
agricultural product preference and  an Alaska product preference                                                               
cannot  be   duplicated,  because  "those  two   preferences  are                                                               
intended to benefit the same group of products."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN said, "So, you choose your preferences."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. JONES said that is correct.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:55:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN, after  ascertaining there was no one  else who wished                                                               
to testify, closed public testimony.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:55:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT said SB 12  is "five years in coming," and                                                               
she cannot wait to pass it.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:55:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ISAACSON   indicated  support  of   the  proposed                                                               
legislation.   He recollected working in  municipal government in                                                               
the past, and trying to  effect changes in the procurement codes.                                                               
He  indicated that  the proposed  legislation  would "peel  back"                                                               
state overreach  and provide more  opportunity for Alaskans.   He                                                               
spoke of the help "our  constitution" gives in creating balances,                                                               
which  make market  economics work,  and  he said  he thinks  the                                                               
proposed  legislation  "goes  into  that  line  of  thinking"  by                                                               
"equalizing things so that Alaskans have opportunity."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:57:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTIS  stated, "This is  one of the  reasons that                                                               
we came to Juneau, to make  less legislation and make it better."                                                               
She  stated  her  support  of  SB  12.   She  said  many  of  her                                                               
constituents are  veterans, and she  referred to the  language in                                                               
the bill, previously mentioned  by [Representative Hughes], which                                                               
addresses veterans.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:58:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER moved  to report  SB 12  out of  committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.  There  being no objection, SB 12 was  reported out of the                                                               
House State Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
01 HB0130A.pdf HSTA 3/19/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 130
02 HB 130 Jay Hammond Day Sponsor Statement.pdf HSTA 3/19/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 130
03 HB 130 Hammond timeline.pdf HSTA 3/19/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 130
04 HB 130 Letter from Representative Hugh Malone regarding the passage of PFD Legislation.pdf HSTA 3/19/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 130
05 HB130 Fiscal Note 3-15-13.php.pdf HSTA 3/19/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 130
06 HB130-DOA-DGS-3-15-13.pdf HSTA 3/19/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 130
07 HB 130 Hammond slides.pdf HSTA 3/19/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 130
01 SB 12 v.N.pdf HSTA 3/19/2013 8:00:00 AM
SB 12
02 SB 12 Sponsor Statement.pdf HSTA 3/19/2013 8:00:00 AM
SB 12
03 SB 12 Fiscal Note DOA.pdf HSTA 3/19/2013 8:00:00 AM
SB 12
04 SB 12 Sectional Analysis.pdf HSTA 3/19/2013 8:00:00 AM
SB 12
05 SB 12 AML Letter of Support.pdf HSTA 3/19/2013 8:00:00 AM
SB 12
06 SB 12 State Chamber Letter of Support.pdf HSTA 3/19/2013 8:00:00 AM
SB 12
07 SB 12 University Letter of Support.pdf HSTA 3/19/2013 8:00:00 AM
SB 12